Chris Kelly

And so when you're selling discounted tokens, yes, of course you're going to grow very fast, but all that money plus more goes to the model providers.

So I think the real story is the story of Anthropic and, you know, being an API provider, I think the market has just moved so fast and there's so many pieces of competition out there that it's just hard to get noticed.

Long-time listener, first-time caller.

Very excited to be here and joining you guys.

This is definitely a podcast that I listen to and keep updated on, so it's very exciting.

Yeah, so I've actually only been doing this sort of work for a little over two years.

Before that time, I had a complete career shift.

I had been doing social work for a little over, right around a decade.

My master's is actually in counseling with a school specialization, so I could be a licensed K-12 school counselor.

But after a few years at an inpatient mental health hospital, a few years doing child protection, and then a year doing vocational rehab, I just decided I was done with social work.

I had it interests throughout my life.

And I, you know, it was one of those flip of a coin, do I do it?

Do I not do it?

But it was really back when I was taking some college classes in high school, that I took a Java programming class.

I'm like, I don't like programming.

So I was like, Well, I guess I'm not doing computer science as a as a degree.

So

things with the brain, psychology, criminal justice, that became the next way I went with things.

And I always had that interest, but I figured to do anything IT related, I had to do computer science.

I had to get some sort of a degree that was based on programming and that sort of thing.