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Chris Kline

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1132 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

So they wanted Ethereum, they wanted Litecoin, Solana, XRP, all the mix of bags.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

So we have 85 now, even some of those meme coins that-

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

You know, well, one of the, I think, I don't know if it was the 85th, but one of the most recent additions early last year was the Trump coin.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

It was Trump mania, the Trump coin mania that happened.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

And there were people that said, okay, I'm going to put a couple thousand in that.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

They saw the run.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

And then as it started to pull off, they pulled back and then they reallocated that towards Bitcoin.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

The reason why volatility is helpful in retirement accounts, especially the solo Ks I was talking about, or any traditional account you have,

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

The wealthy use these downturns for what's called a Roth conversion.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

So when you put money in pre-tax, which is traditional or SEP, you're lowering your tax bill for the income and you're paying nominal income tax when you take it out when you're older because you're not making as much.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

What a lot of folks will do right now, so Bitcoin runs from 126 all the way down to 66, 65,000.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

They will take this moment in time and say, well, my portfolio is down 50%.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

I can panic about the headlines or I can use this as strategy.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

I'm going to go ahead and take my traditional IRA

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

I'm going to convert it to a Roth IRA right now because the value is half as much, which means my tax bill to convert will go down 50%.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

So they take advantage of this moment in time.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

And once they do that, as we go through the next run, because we all know it's going to be back at all time highs here in the next 12, 18, 24 months, then they're now in a Roth setting where they're never going to pay taxes on those funds ever again.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

No penalty for conversion.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

It's just you're now taking pre-tax money, turning into post-tax money.

The Pomp Podcast
How Smart Investors Turn Bitcoin Drawdowns Into Tax Wins | Chris Kline

So you're going to have whatever your income for the year is, whatever your nominal tax rate is for that amount.