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Chris Krupenya

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
43 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

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Tea time... with an ape?

Look right at the camera.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Good boy.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

You're doing so good.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Just a couple more.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

We don't know exactly what he grasped, but you could ask him a question and often he would respond in the way that he should.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And one of the ways he could respond is through pointing and...

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

That's not a common behavior for apes.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

They don't typically point in the way that humans do.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

We think of imagination as being really fundamentally human.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

In our minds, we can sort of depart from the here and now.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

We can think about other worlds, other times, the past, the future, and even entertain, pretend, or imaginary scenarios.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

So this feels like something that is sort of so fundamental to our mental experience as a species.

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Tea time... with an ape?

That allows us to, in many ways, ask him what he thinks or knows in more or less the same way that you might ask a human child.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Kids will have tea parties with their dolls.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

They might have an imaginary friend.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

They might play house with their friends.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

So they're showing these roots of imagination within the first years of life.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And the way that we study that capacity in them is to engage them in the kinds of pretend scenarios that are familiar to them.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

Where an experimenter will set up a tea set and then they'll sort of pretend to pour, you know, fake juice into various locations or pour it out and they'll ask the kid where's the imaginary juice.

Short Wave
Tea time... with an ape?

And kids will often

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