Chris Mason

They were sort of shouting.

They were saying, condemn the violence, referring to the protests that are taking place in Southampton.

It was such a moment in the Commons.

And I think that element of this discussion has now almost come to the fore a little bit about how politicians should respond in a moment like this.

And we're seeing more of that continue now with the responses of Kemi Badenoch and Keir Starmer.

Well, I think in terms of any policy or anything that comes out of this, there are kind of two issues.

One of them is about knife crime.

And that is something that actually Henry Novak's father spoke about when he spoke after the sentencing at court.

So the prime minister already talks about what they're doing on knife crime.

But that's obviously one thing that I don't know.

Are we going to see some further policy in that area?

Who knows?

You know, the government's got a pretty ambitious pledge to halve knife crime emissions.

Are they going to reach that?

You know, it feels like if they're going to make that the real focus of their response and they're going to have to be sure they can really deliver on it.

The second element about this is obviously the police and the Prime Minister himself has said that there are questions to be asked about whether the...

The allegation, the wrongful allegation of racism, whether that contributed to the police actions in this case.

And we know that there's an investigation going on by the Independent Office of Police Conduct.

And the government's take on that is you've got to wait for that to happen.

And then we'll sort of see what happens beyond that.