Chris Mason

Just extraordinary.

The Conservatives also lost nine.

So it's where you're seeing, broadly speaking, certainly in seats terms, a straightforward switch from one to the other.

You know, you take Barnsley, where perhaps the most successful and longstanding Labour leader is.

in Britain, Sir Steve Houghton, who had been the council leader there since John Major was Prime Minister.

He became council leader in 1996.

He'd been on the council, I think, since the late 80s.

He held his seat, I think, by 23...

votes today.

But Labour lost Barnsley and reform have gained it again with substantial numbers.

So you look at those and you think, wow, that is quite a thing.

And it's not just in places like that, which were Labour leaning previously, but also places like Essex and Suffolk and others besides which were previously Conservative leaning.

So fascinating to see how they've performed in England.

That's before we get to the Welsh and Scottish

So outskirts of Tokyo.

It is on the edges of greater London or however you want to define it.

Yes, and you're right.

There is a keen argument in Havering about their geographical affinity with some arguing that they're

their instinct, their gut, their heart lies with Essex rather than with London.

And this idea that you might have a, yeah, there might be a referendum.