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Chris Masterjohn

πŸ‘€ Speaker
1222 total appearances

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

That's not the only factor, but it's one of them.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

That process degrades the collagen that covers the plaque and it makes micro tears.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And the micro tears and the collagen get healed by scar tissue that gets laid on top of it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And so when you get narrowing into the blood vessel, it's because you're building up scar tissue on top of, like it keeps breaking and you keep building scar tissue on it.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

But if it breaks and you get a blood clot that is big enough in the acute moment to block the whole artery, that's what usually causes most heart attacks.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

Natokinase is an enzyme derived from natto, which is a Japanese fermented soybean paste.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

that is also incidentally very high in vitamin K2, which helps you protect against calcium deposits that weaken the plaque and make it more likely to rupture.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So actually just eating natto would be better.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

This is why Food First works, right?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

If you had K2 and natto kinase, you'd be even better off, but the natto kinase helps break apart blood clots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

So if in some people you might just have a predisposition because you've got systemic inflammation where like you just clot more easily, or you might have someone who's got a genetic defect and the ability to degrade clots.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And so their baseline clotting is higher than normal.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

If that's the case, then they're even more likely to get a heart attack or a stroke when the plaque ruptures because their baseline predisposition to clot is higher.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And then on top of that,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

If you've got someone with really bad atherosclerosis, they might be clotting all the time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

Every day might be a new day where they could have a heart attack.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And so in both of those cases, natokinase is going to degrade the clots as soon as they occur, and it's going to lower the total clotting.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

And the downside risk of that is maybe you bleed too easily if you get cut.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

But the upside potential of that is if you're one of the people who are a candidate for any one of these days now, you're going to get a heart attack or a stroke.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2420 - Chris Masterjohn

Having taken 2,000 IU of natokinase that day may have prevented you from getting a heart attack or a stroke because the clot formed and you degraded it more quickly.