Chris McDonough

And the fact that he came with a gun tells us he is prepared to use deadly force, whatever's necessary.

And so one of the things I'm concerned about is we're not seeing any of that blood evidence in these photographs here or on this video because we know that blood.

Yes, but remember the debris that was dropped on that porch.

Those photographs that we initially saw had the debris on top of the blood droplets.

Look at the upper left-hand corner, the quadrant there where the debris is.

Notice that one piece is over the top of the blood droplet.

Okay, and those are 90 degree blood droplets, meaning they were straight down.

But you'll see the debris is on top of them.

So either he, while bringing her out, had kicked his own debris and she was bleeding and that would explain that.

Or, you know, at some point, you know, how does this...

how does that debris get on top of the blood that's the question i have and and what's concerning is is she being carried out because like cheryl had mentioned has she been bound you know or something to that effect what's going on you know because we know something happened inside that house where he injured her and she was ready or he was ready uh you know to do that

evident in the fact that he walked in with the items that he did.

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

And welcome to the real world here because these phones are the modern crime scene because it seems like every case that we cover, you know, I think most famously to this point,

Koberger's case, you go to these patterns of behavior.

This was spoken about quite a bit in that particular case.

We have established patterns.

Why are you going to turn it off at this particular time?

And look, the case is not proven simply based on that, but it's another element that can be integrated into this from a behavioral standpoint.

Yeah, all of us would.