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Chris Pedregal

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
308 total appearances

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Podcast Appearances

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

A lot of this data is, you don't need that much of it anymore. And getting a little bit of data is not that expensive or not that hard. The way the world's going is you get these foundation models that can understand the world and kind of do a whole bunch of different things. And then with a little bit of data on top of that, you can really hone it into a use case.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

A lot of this data is, you don't need that much of it anymore. And getting a little bit of data is not that expensive or not that hard. The way the world's going is you get these foundation models that can understand the world and kind of do a whole bunch of different things. And then with a little bit of data on top of that, you can really hone it into a use case.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Whereas before, like an old machine learning paradigm, you'd need millions and millions and millions of examples of something. Now it's kind of crazy we can get away with 50,000 examples. And even if it's a very expensive data type to get, 50,000 is not that hard. I think about what kind of data is un-gettable. So I don't know. I guess I'm kind of split.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Whereas before, like an old machine learning paradigm, you'd need millions and millions and millions of examples of something. Now it's kind of crazy we can get away with 50,000 examples. And even if it's a very expensive data type to get, 50,000 is not that hard. I think about what kind of data is un-gettable. So I don't know. I guess I'm kind of split.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

This idea that soon anyone is going to be able to build apps, I think that's going to happen, and I think that's going to happen relatively soon. It's less clear to me what the effects on the world are going to be. I've been thinking about historical examples. Does that make people who are really good at building apps less valuable or more valuable?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

This idea that soon anyone is going to be able to build apps, I think that's going to happen, and I think that's going to happen relatively soon. It's less clear to me what the effects on the world are going to be. I've been thinking about historical examples. Does that make people who are really good at building apps less valuable or more valuable?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And I don't actually know the beginnings of photography. It was almost impossible to take a photo, right? If you just had a camera, that's it, you're winning. And then cameras became more accessible, but they're still expensive. And it's spent a lot of time to get good at it and different lenses. And then everyone has like a phone in their pocket.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

And I don't actually know the beginnings of photography. It was almost impossible to take a photo, right? If you just had a camera, that's it, you're winning. And then cameras became more accessible, but they're still expensive. And it's spent a lot of time to get good at it and different lenses. And then everyone has like a phone in their pocket.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

In a lot of ways, okay, everyone's a photographer and it's amazing what people can do. At the same time, I feel like there's a premium on taste now. If you actually are really great and you can stand out in that, it's almost like you're more valuable. I'm curious what you think. What's going to happen with software? What's going to happen with apps? Is that it?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

In a lot of ways, okay, everyone's a photographer and it's amazing what people can do. At the same time, I feel like there's a premium on taste now. If you actually are really great and you can stand out in that, it's almost like you're more valuable. I'm curious what you think. What's going to happen with software? What's going to happen with apps? Is that it?

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Here's a very real example for us. We just made our first customer experience hire. We have lots of people writing in and we interviewed a ton of candidates. And I'm pretty convinced that you're going to be able to look at a company and say, was their customer experience department created before or after 2025? Maybe this is the year. And the ones post 2025 are going to look completely different.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Here's a very real example for us. We just made our first customer experience hire. We have lots of people writing in and we interviewed a ton of candidates. And I'm pretty convinced that you're going to be able to look at a company and say, was their customer experience department created before or after 2025? Maybe this is the year. And the ones post 2025 are going to look completely different.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

They're probably going to be a lot smaller in terms of people, the way they use tools and like what those people do will be very different. I think the departments that are created before will have trouble. They're much harder to change something that's existing than to build something from scratch on a new paradigm. We're very ambitious at Granola, so I think we're going to need a lot of people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

They're probably going to be a lot smaller in terms of people, the way they use tools and like what those people do will be very different. I think the departments that are created before will have trouble. They're much harder to change something that's existing than to build something from scratch on a new paradigm. We're very ambitious at Granola, so I think we're going to need a lot of people.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

But I think it might be, you read about these companies that have thousands and tens of thousands of employees. The world in which that's necessary at Granola seems very small.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

But I think it might be, you read about these companies that have thousands and tens of thousands of employees. The world in which that's necessary at Granola seems very small.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

My dad spent a lot of time giving me a lot of feedback on things, oftentimes critical. I always felt very loved and supported, but oftentimes quite critical. And now that I'm in his shoes with my kids, I realize just how hard and tiring that is. And there's not a lot of upside for you as an individual to do that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

My dad spent a lot of time giving me a lot of feedback on things, oftentimes critical. I always felt very loved and supported, but oftentimes quite critical. And now that I'm in his shoes with my kids, I realize just how hard and tiring that is. And there's not a lot of upside for you as an individual to do that.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Sometimes something just needs to be said to someone and there's a lot of upside for the individual who gets the feedback and only downside for the person giving it. I appreciate just how hard that must have been and how kind that was because it was really all for my benefit.

Invest Like the Best with Patrick O'Shaughnessy
Chris Pedregal - Building Granola - [Invest Like the Best, EP.412]

Sometimes something just needs to be said to someone and there's a lot of upside for the individual who gets the feedback and only downside for the person giving it. I appreciate just how hard that must have been and how kind that was because it was really all for my benefit.