Chris Robbins

Thanks for having me in.

I had gotten pretty heavy into meditation, was studying Buddhism, and somebody said,

we were talking about this concept of quieting the mind and meditation, and somebody said, oh, well, I just read one of these passages before I drop in.

And that was sort of the beginning of me finding this book.

And I think just looking back on what has been a decade plus of

both reading and rereading this and sharing it profusely, it has been the source of my own awakening, if you will.

And also, just a reminder to your point about how

Nobody has the answers.

I love what you said earlier.

We're all just here comparing notes.

And this is a book that I give away in all of the men's work that I do.

Thank you.

It provides a light and a lens into our own humanity, my own humanity.

It's one of the reasons why I think some of your teachings and your writings are so profound, because you're not offering answers.

And even this Book of Awakening, I think it doesn't lead people to what is true.

It doesn't force people to ask for help, but it does invite by way of the prompts and the reflections.

It inspires people to ask those questions.

And I think for, at least for a lot of the people that I sit with, particularly men who are not inclined necessarily to

ask for help or hey you know i'm gonna i'm gonna get this done i'm gonna go it alone um i'm not sure that it's always so clear what is true or what help is required and so i i'm seeing at least even in this conversation that that's part of what without me even knowing it has spoken to me because it's

It's given me the space and the presence of mind to even ask these questions of myself or, I mean, in the case of Mel and I, just doing it together with friends and with one another.