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Chris Spyrou

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The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

30% of us have acted on what it said, while 35% of us have used it to get a second opinion on our doctor's advice.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

It's been dubbed the shadow doctor, an unregulated consultation room that's open around the clock, and it's only getting bigger.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

OpenAI joined the race this year with the launch of ChatGPT Health.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

And while that's not available in Australia just yet, it's just one of several platforms that let users sync everything from their medical records, lab results, and even smartwatch data into one centralized AI brain that not only holds everything, but responds to you in plain English.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

And according to these companies, they're in the business of creating tools that support, not replace, clinical care.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

And because of that, they sit in a massive regulatory grey zone here in Australia.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

They're marketed as wellness assistants, not clinical tools.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

So they fall just outside TGA regulations, meaning they can analyse your most intimate health data without ever having to prove they're accurate or even safe.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

So the question we'll be digging into in this deep dive isn't if we're turning to AI for our healthcare and the dangers of it, but why and how we're doing it.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Poppy Reid is a journalist who's been on the AI health train for a little while, and she joins me now.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Poppy, welcome to the briefing.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Most of us listening, we're no stranger to Dr. Google.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Were you a Dr. Googler before you became a Dr. AI-er?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

What was it that pushed you to make that first search?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

I mean, a lot of us, our first foray into AI land would be ChatGPT to help us draft an email.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

But you sought it for medical advice or at least medical help.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Talk me through that.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

I want to know, you know, at least in the example you just gave, it's quite a general condition or it's a general thing most people would have experienced.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Have you ever used AI to try to interrogate or find something a bit more niche or specialist or a bit more tricky in the medical world?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

So it sounds like you're almost tapping into that journalism and the curiosity of it all and kind of using it to further understand a condition as opposed to getting yourself diagnosed on these platforms.