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Chris Spyrou

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The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

We know that ChatGPTC sees over 40 million health-related queries a day.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

I don't know what portion of that we can attribute to your searches, however.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

More and more people are sharing their details on there and they're sharing intimate and detailed symptoms because they prefer doing that with a chatbot over a doctor or a human.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Was that part of the appeal for you?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

If not trying to, you know, avoid the embarrassment, but the idea of not wanting to pester medical professionals that you know you're going to be waiting a very, very long time to see and paying a lot of money to see?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Have you run into any issues with hallucinations and stuff like that?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Because we have seen Google recently make changes to its AI summary, which was lifting amateur medical advice, putting it up to the top and presenting it as fact, and then

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

a bunch of journos did some work and Google made some tweaks to that and things like that.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Have you come across anything like that where, you know, the chatbot is really pushing you in a direction you're like, oh gosh, no, no, no, I do not have this.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

And similar to your story, when I was overseas last year with a group of friends, we had a mate that definitely broke his hand and we were like, you've broken your hand, chat GPT confirmed it.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

But it had that little disclaimer down the bottom that was like, go see a doctor, dude, you probably need surgery.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

And he did need surgery.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

But interestingly, we also used it for other stuff to kind of dissect formal diagnoses, even trying to get the jump on an x-ray.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

I mean, we've all been in the car after getting an x-ray and lifted it up to the sun and trying to make sense of where the fracture is and things like that.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

I found that ChatGPT has been helpful in that space.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Is that sort of the way you're using it as well or not really?

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

Poppy, thank you so much for joining us to talk us through how you're using AI in healthcare.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

It's fascinating stuff and it's a fascinating chat.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

That was journalist Poppy Reid speaking with me there, and we reached out to the TGA about all of this, and their advice is to remember that general AI tools like ChatGPT are not considered medical devices, and so users run the risk of receiving unsafe and inaccurate information when it comes to their health.

The Briefing
Historic Israel-Lebanon talks + Millions of Aussies see ‘shadow doctors'

They've also provided us a list of AI-enabled medical devices that are TGA-approved.