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Chris Stokel-Walker

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

He's a shrewd businessman and always has been.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

Then you have Greg Brockman, obviously very embarrassing in his diary talking about this.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

I think he's been lured by the money, but he was one of many researchers in the AI space that were lured to open AI in 2015 with the promise of big money contracts.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

And truthfully, I think that it was the large amounts of money, but also the promise of doing something really good for the benefit of humanity that got a lot of people there.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

So, you know,

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

Perhaps the cast of characters that we aren't hearing from in this trial are the ones that had the more virtuous view of what open AI would be.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

Well, if OpenAI wins, as they probably will do, then OpenAI continues to go on trucking ahead.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

Sam Altman vanquishes one of his most hated opponents, someone who's been a thorn in his side for a long, long time.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

The enmity that you feel between those two is really significant.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

And I think it boosts Sam Altman's ego, which truthfully doesn't already need much more boosting because he's managed to survive a boardroom coup, remember, back in November 2023, which everybody thought was going to be him done for.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

So an already pretty significant ego is going to get very much bigger here.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

For Elon Musk, if he ends up winning, which I think is enormously unlikely, he can effectively say that he was right all along.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

He won't win, I think, is pretty much the decision and the ordinary outcome that we're expecting.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

But if he did win, then it would be significant and would have a massive impact on OpenAI.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

Because remember...

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

They are trying to launch their IPO later this year.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

And I think in part that is why Musk has chosen now to bring this to court is because he wants to have that question mark hanging over OpenAI while they try and invite investment from the public before their flotation on the stock market.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

And truthfully for OpenAI, it's kind of a little bit of a lose-lose.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

So Sam Altman might win, but actually OpenAI will still have that challenge.

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Taking Stock
The war on markets, Europe’s new quartet and Musk Vs Altman

They've been delayed in their IPO because of this.

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