Chris Tarbell

Let's go up the chain.

But the buyers didn't know their dealers.

They never met them.

Yeah, we said, let's try to look at this from a cyber approach and see if we can gleam anything out of it.

Oh, I can already tell you what you're going to tell me, though.

That when you were at college, you wrote a paper and you're connected to the person that started.

You son of a bitch.

I'm an FBI agent or a former FBI agent.

How would I not have known that?

No, that's exactly what you were about to tell me.

Tor was originally invented by the US Navy so that like spies inside countries could talk to spies and no one could find them.

There was no way of tracing them.

And then they released that information free to the world.

So Tor has two different versions of, not versions, two different ways it can be utilized.

There's .onion sites, which is like a normal website, a .com, but it's only found within the Tor browser.

You can only get there if you know the whole address and get there.

The other way Tor is used is to,

go through the internet and then come out the other side if you want a different IP address, if you're trying to hide your identity.

So if you were doing like, say, cybercrime, I would have the victim computer and I would trace it back out to a Tor relay.

And then because you don't have an active connection or what's called a circuit at the time, I wouldn't be able to trace it back.