Chris Tarbell

But even if you had an active circuit, I would have to go to each machine physically live and try to rebuild that, which...

is literally impossible.

So part of my time in the FBI was working on child exploitation, kiddie porn, as they call it.

That really changed my life in a way.

And so anything that helps facilitate the exploitation of children

Fucking pisses me off.

And that sort of jaded my opinion towards Tor because of that, because it helps facilitate those sites.

I mean, the child exploitation is the specific example for it.

It's easy for me to sit here and say child exploitation, child porn, because no one listening to this is ever going to say that I'm wrong and that we should allow child porn.

Because some people utilize it in a bad way, should it go away?

No.

I mean, I'm a technologist.

I want technology to move forward.

People are going to do bad things, and they're going to use technology to help them do bad things.

There is no truth to that.

And then my feelings on mass surveillance.

If there was, would you tell me?

I mean, nobody wants to give up their privacy.

I say that.

I say no one wants to give up their privacy.