Chris Vetter

I mean, as I said, most of the new customers, a lot of them come from existing clients since they're huge global companies.

Yeah.

Also, it's like a combination.

I think last year was a lot of new customers because we got really strong in the pharma industry.

So if you ask me one year ago, we had like one pharma client.

Now we have, I think the five biggest pharma companies in Germany are probably our clients.

So we kind of go industry by industry.

And I think it's kind of when they're ready for these kind of questions, they would look around and see who can support them.

So it has been a lot of new industries and therefore a lot of new clients last year, but typically I would say it's around 50-50.

Never say never.

I mean, let's see.

It's not our, we are not pressured to do so.

We're doing really good, but I mean, always keeping the eyes open.

Yes, yes.

We've been profitable ever since because that's how we grow.

No, we try to keep as much as we can in the company and reinvest it.

Even the founders, we try to keep as much as we can in the company.

How many founders are there?

Well, originally, we were four of them when we were still at Siemens.

And in the end,