Chris Whipple

Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Great to be with you. Thanks for having me.

Well, you know, this is what makes the book such an extraordinary story, I think. It's really remarkable the extent to which Biden's inner circle, not just his family but his close advisors, were operating in a kind of fog of delusion and denial. You know, I differ with people who say that this was a cover-up in the classic book.

Well, you know, this is what makes the book such an extraordinary story, I think. It's really remarkable the extent to which Biden's inner circle, not just his family but his close advisors, were operating in a kind of fog of delusion and denial. You know, I differ with people who say that this was a cover-up in the classic book.

Well, you know, this is what makes the book such an extraordinary story, I think. It's really remarkable the extent to which Biden's inner circle, not just his family but his close advisors, were operating in a kind of fog of delusion and denial. You know, I differ with people who say that this was a cover-up in the classic book.

Watergate sense of the word, and that suggests that you're hiding something that you know to be true. What's so remarkable about this story is that Biden's closest advisors really were all in on this delusional notion that Joe Biden could function effectively for another four years as president at the age of 82 or 86 by the end of that term. And I find it just a really remarkable story.

Watergate sense of the word, and that suggests that you're hiding something that you know to be true. What's so remarkable about this story is that Biden's closest advisors really were all in on this delusional notion that Joe Biden could function effectively for another four years as president at the age of 82 or 86 by the end of that term. And I find it just a really remarkable story.

Watergate sense of the word, and that suggests that you're hiding something that you know to be true. What's so remarkable about this story is that Biden's closest advisors really were all in on this delusional notion that Joe Biden could function effectively for another four years as president at the age of 82 or 86 by the end of that term. And I find it just a really remarkable story.

To answer your specific question, you know, at one point, Bill Daley, President Obama's second White House chief of staff, spoke to Tom Donilon, who is the brother of maybe Joe Biden's closest advisor, Mike Donilon, his alter ego. And he said, you know, Daley said, how the hell is this going on? He used a more colorful adjective.

To answer your specific question, you know, at one point, Bill Daley, President Obama's second White House chief of staff, spoke to Tom Donilon, who is the brother of maybe Joe Biden's closest advisor, Mike Donilon, his alter ego. And he said, you know, Daley said, how the hell is this going on? He used a more colorful adjective.

To answer your specific question, you know, at one point, Bill Daley, President Obama's second White House chief of staff, spoke to Tom Donilon, who is the brother of maybe Joe Biden's closest advisor, Mike Donilon, his alter ego. And he said, you know, Daley said, how the hell is this going on? He used a more colorful adjective.

And Tom Donilon said, you know, not even my brother has had this conversation with Joe Biden about his age. And you can be sure that if Mike Donilon didn't have that conversation, it's almost certain no one else did.

And Tom Donilon said, you know, not even my brother has had this conversation with Joe Biden about his age. And you can be sure that if Mike Donilon didn't have that conversation, it's almost certain no one else did.

And Tom Donilon said, you know, not even my brother has had this conversation with Joe Biden about his age. And you can be sure that if Mike Donilon didn't have that conversation, it's almost certain no one else did.

Well, you know, I had my own reasons for wondering if the Biden White House staff was hiding the president, because when I was writing my book on the first two years of the administration, I asked for an interview with the president. I was told I could email questions and I would get written answers in reply.

Well, you know, I had my own reasons for wondering if the Biden White House staff was hiding the president, because when I was writing my book on the first two years of the administration, I asked for an interview with the president. I was told I could email questions and I would get written answers in reply.

Well, you know, I had my own reasons for wondering if the Biden White House staff was hiding the president, because when I was writing my book on the first two years of the administration, I asked for an interview with the president. I was told I could email questions and I would get written answers in reply.

You know, clearly they were uncomfortable even then with the prospect of the president having an interview in real time with a reporter.

You know, clearly they were uncomfortable even then with the prospect of the president having an interview in real time with a reporter.