Chris Williamson

The more controlled and confident I feel, the less in control you're going to feel.

the time away but the time away without feeling like you're abandoning the conversation which is i suppose where the clear communication comes in why that's so important yeah there's a difference between just saying i'm out of here slamming the door and leaving it versus saying i'm not leaving this conversation i am going to make sure that we take some time because i can see you need some space i'm good with that you good talking about this later this afternoon

Usually they'll nod their head, yeah.

Or sometimes I can tell you when I feel like my wife and I are on the same team is if I'll ask something and she'll go, I'm fine.

And I know she's not.

And I might ask, you good with talking to me about it later?

You should go, yeah.

You know what I mean?

But that like, you have to be able to give that, you know, to say, hey, I'm not, I don't want to leave this conversation.

I'm not, I'm not, this matters to me.

If it matters to you, it matters to me.

Yeah.

He's the best.

I love Chris.

The seems like sounds like.

Seems like you have a reason for saying that.

But it's also Chris Voss' voice.

Yeah, of course.

I mean, you hear his voice and he could be like, you know, I think you should give me that couch.

And I'd be like, you could tell me to suck his dick and I'd probably...