Chris Williamson

I had a, so James, my business partner in Utonic, this thing, we both played the Apollo in London.

Three and a half thousand people.

We both sold it out separately.

Get that in Utonic.

That'll fuel the rest of the day.

Sweet.

uh he uh he played the same show as me separate a couple years before and we were messaging about it the other day and we were talking about this like what's happening on tour and he was like dude i played the biggest show of my life sold out three and a half thousand people in my home country he's like i couldn't tell you anything about what happened i can't tell you anything i can kind of remember walking out and i've got all the photos but i remember my show through the lens of the photographer and the videographer now yeah it's like i don't remember it from my own eyes and it's this this really interesting

paradox that i've never thought about before until starting to do this when you're in a flow state which is what everybody's supposed to want to get into you're really unconscious right like stuff's just happening you know you're set you've dialed it in you're halfway through the tour like everything's locked yeah you and you forget what you're doing and it's really enjoyable but in this weird way you're not there you're not you weren't there yeah

You weren't there for it.

Yeah.

Like, it just happened.

Have you seen that movie, Soul?

No.

Is that... That's the Disney one?

Isn't that strange though, that the thing that you want to do most in the place that you want to get to as a performer is,

is the point where you make the fewest memories.

Like you're not there for it.

Yeah.

It's just as well.

It's just as well that we've gone.