Christian Owens

So it was probably, yeah, 2014.

I remember we got to about 500K in ARR sort of fairly quickly once we actually hit our stride with what the product was.

And then, so we got from like zero to 400 and then went back down to about like 50.

because we lost a customer that was contributing 350K in ARR.

And then we had to then rebuild from 50 back up.

So yeah, that was a fun year.

roughly somewhere in that region, yeah.

You're asking me stuff from a decade ago now, so I'm going to mess this up.

The best part of this is that Nathan is about to just quote the interview that I did with him

I know he's so good.

Five years ago.

And then he's going to see if they corroborate each other.

And I'm going to be like, I'm going to mess something up.

Yeah, I think so.

So like actually raising capital was the first thing that we did as a business.

Um, like, can I, and it kind of comes back to kind of Patrick's point earlier and it wasn't the initial round of money, uh, round of kind of funding, which was just a seed round from like one angel investor.

Um,

It was 150K pounds, so like $220.

Yeah, it wasn't to do with... We didn't raise the money for the money.

Going into that, I was like, okay, Harrison and I have built... We've built a business before and it's done reasonably well.