Christian Owens

We've never built a company.

Like, and we went into this like very much with the idea of like, we're going to build a company and like, this will be worth a billion dollars someday.

Like kind of some pick some random number out of the sky.

Billion four.

Billion four.

Um, but like, so like that was very much the intention from day one.

Um, like the previous business was bootstrapped and we could have kept going with it and kind of doing all that stuff.

But it was a very intentional moment where we were like, build a business.

We never built a company.

Um, so we went and raised that sort of like call it 200, 200 grand, um, initially.

And like part of that was like,

I was an entrepreneur guy called Mark.

Um, he bootstrapped a business to, he was probably like 20, 25 million in revenue.

Um, kind of based in London.

Um, he ended up selling it for a couple hundred million dollars.

Um, and sort of like part of the deal was he invested this money, but we also just like Harrison and I got to move into his office.

And every time we had a question, it was like, he'll point us in the direction of the people who deal with that.

And we'll go and like bribe them with, with like,

with like chocolate and candy and stuff so that they can like, like a payroll issue or like whatever, like sort of, so that was like literally how we, we kind of like got the initial like knowledge that we needed to like build a company.

Um, so we made the decision very early that we were going to raise money and then sort of over the like hour, like we didn't raise a lot of money though.