Christian Rudder

Exactly. Theoretically. You could ask these sort of components of that value, right? And kind of get... Insofar as you can approximate the observed, like the real truth behind whatever this person is saying. Because most people probably will say family or whatever because they think of themselves as a good person. And generally that's kind of how society works, right?

Exactly. Theoretically. You could ask these sort of components of that value, right? And kind of get... Insofar as you can approximate the observed, like the real truth behind whatever this person is saying. Because most people probably will say family or whatever because they think of themselves as a good person. And generally that's kind of how society works, right?

And then you can kind of have the sort of true value ranking underneath the hood. And then you'd also have a third measure. And now you'd know how well that person knows themselves too. You'd have what they say their values are. what their kind of inferred values are, and then how well those two things match. It would be an interesting way to understand somebody.

And then you can kind of have the sort of true value ranking underneath the hood. And then you'd also have a third measure. And now you'd know how well that person knows themselves too. You'd have what they say their values are. what their kind of inferred values are, and then how well those two things match. It would be an interesting way to understand somebody.

attracted more matches and more people messaging for the most part it was like a gentle curve in a way and then when the picture blew up all of a sudden the attractive people got way more interest yeah they get like more leverage on the pixels so to speak I mean it's definitely affected it I think in a lot of ways focus on photos on dating apps for sure is the negative thing like we've said a couple times here there's so much more to a person than I don't know just their face like a headshot basically right

attracted more matches and more people messaging for the most part it was like a gentle curve in a way and then when the picture blew up all of a sudden the attractive people got way more interest yeah they get like more leverage on the pixels so to speak I mean it's definitely affected it I think in a lot of ways focus on photos on dating apps for sure is the negative thing like we've said a couple times here there's so much more to a person than I don't know just their face like a headshot basically right

At the same time, we've discovered we actually tried to turn the pictures off of OkCupid for a day just to see what would happen. You turned the pictures off? Off, like totally off. This was like 2013 maybe, really as an experiment. Shut them all down, all the thumbnails, everything went away. And as you'd expect, the messaging environment was actually a lot healthier.

At the same time, we've discovered we actually tried to turn the pictures off of OkCupid for a day just to see what would happen. You turned the pictures off? Off, like totally off. This was like 2013 maybe, really as an experiment. Shut them all down, all the thumbnails, everything went away. And as you'd expect, the messaging environment was actually a lot healthier.

Definitely attractiveness wasn't a component because you couldn't tell what the person looked like that you were trying to talk to. At the same time, people hated it. And we got so much feedback that day. We knew we were going to turn them back on, but people were just freaking out. Even though we explained it wasn't broken, we were doing this on purpose.

Definitely attractiveness wasn't a component because you couldn't tell what the person looked like that you were trying to talk to. At the same time, people hated it. And we got so much feedback that day. We knew we were going to turn them back on, but people were just freaking out. Even though we explained it wasn't broken, we were doing this on purpose.

And I just, people are visual and they kind of have, yeah, they have to have the photo. So it's like, you kind of got to meet them. You have to meet them. Like a dating app can only meet people where they are, right? Like we can't force people. We actually tried another adventure into this world. Yeah.

And I just, people are visual and they kind of have, yeah, they have to have the photo. So it's like, you kind of got to meet them. You have to meet them. Like a dating app can only meet people where they are, right? Like we can't force people. We actually tried another adventure into this world. Yeah.

we tried to launch, this was, this was what we tried to launch a blind dating app, like where we would take a photo and we would scramble it digitally. Right. This is so stupid in retrospect, but, but like, you know, we thought that you could have a scrambled photo and you, people could browse and, you know, you could, you would learn a lot more about people and you could set it.

we tried to launch, this was, this was what we tried to launch a blind dating app, like where we would take a photo and we would scramble it digitally. Right. This is so stupid in retrospect, but, but like, you know, we thought that you could have a scrambled photo and you, people could browse and, you know, you could, you would learn a lot more about people and you could set it.

It was, it was very slightly pretender. So it was like a little bit more immediate. You could see this scrambled photo and somebody, and maybe even go see them that night, meet them that night. It was a total bomb. Like,

It was, it was very slightly pretender. So it was like a little bit more immediate. You could see this scrambled photo and somebody, and maybe even go see them that night, meet them that night. It was a total bomb. Like,

you had like what 10,000 people I think who tried it yeah we had a quarter million downloads and it was like 10,000 dates or something like that it just was terrible and yeah people just don't They're just not up for it, you know?

you had like what 10,000 people I think who tried it yeah we had a quarter million downloads and it was like 10,000 dates or something like that it just was terrible and yeah people just don't They're just not up for it, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like the lights coming on at last call or whatever, where everyone's like, oh, oh, oh.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like the lights coming on at last call or whatever, where everyone's like, oh, oh, oh.