Christina Pickwell

So a lot of breweries, when they first start out, they kind of get their hands on

random kegs, secondhand ones from anywhere they kind of can.

And a few years ago, when Convoy or Keg Star actually was the one that started it years ago, they developed this leasing company so you could lease a keg.

And this was good because buying a keg outright brand new is quite expensive.

So and when each batch of beer you need, I mean, you know, anywhere from 10 to 40 kegs.

And that's a very expensive outlay.

just for one batch of beer let alone when you're doing four five six varieties so the leasing option was good because you didn't have to fork out for a keg fleet of 400 kegs for example so the problem is that it is it originally when kegstar first started it was quite a expensive model and it was quite challenging to use so when convoy came onto the market they saw how challenging it was

Used to be with Kegstown Convoy, just did a one charge per keg per use kind of thing.

So that was really beneficial for us because we knew exactly what our costs were going to be.

Oh.

So that is all over the show.

It'll depend on freight costs and everything else.

Everyone has a different contract with their keg supplier based on how many we sold back.

So when we first started with Convoy, we actually sold them all of our existing kegs that we actually owned.

And we did have a fleet of over 400.

So the issue we had was getting them back from the bars once we had sold them the keg and they'd finished it.

They would sometimes not tell us that the keg was empty.

It was return freight and return couriers often quite expensive as well from different areas of the country.

So we're finding it really challenging to actually get our kegs back and they got lost in the New Zealand keg world and sometimes barbecue world.

That is exactly it.