Christoph Jentzsch

It's just not easy right now.

I see.

So it's also not so important because, as I said, I think currency is the least interesting aspect of blockchain for me right now.

it's where it started this is the application of bitcoin but you've seen the limitations in scalability and even in privacy and all of this then actually i have to say it's not a very good currency people are starting also say it's just a store of value i could go with this but then you would say why does it has value well you can use it as a currency and then you have the problem actually so i i does have features you can do a lot of nice

But for me, if I think about blockchain and especially Ethereum and smart contracts, it opens up different applications.

It opens up something I would call programmable money.

And that becomes interesting.

Programmable money?

Sorry for my pronunciation.

That's okay.

That's what I like.

And yes, of course, it's money for me in this regard, like if you pay to open a lock.

But in the end, our users, they're most likely not paying either, although they can if they want to.

But they're most likely to pay with a token which is bound to euros, a euro token, which is always worth one euro.

That's what we have done with Chain Uncharged because they're users that

blockchain or crypto, and they are paying extra euro in the application.

Right now, we do build hardware, we integrate an existing hardware.

So it's more or less just a software update.

Many of those devices already have enough computing power to run a so-called light client, which can connect to the blockchain.

So we just started, but the charging stations have a little over 1,000 charging stations right now.