Christopher Luxon

What people are seeing is a new Conservative Party under a new leader, and I am changing things.

People like our policies.

They're very popular up and down the country.

What we need to really focus on now is winning trust.

Maybe.

John.

You're absolutely right.

Yes, that was at Lones in Lyttelton.

Just after soundcheck, that video was shot.

Yes.

And I'm not particularly woo-woo, Mike, but it's like a bit of an energy kind of transfer, you know, like what you give out, it comes around.

Yeah, exactly.

I mean, we did it in October last year.

We've been operating under it essentially since then.

But it is quite world leading.

There's no other deal that's like this that's been put together where there's a guarantee of no export controls on each other in the centre of a crisis.

But the other thing I was trying to do, Mike, is I took 30 senior CEOs from New Zealand and had them meet for a day with 30 senior CEOs from Singapore as well.

Because while we've had good relationships, prime minister to prime minister and ministers to ministers, we actually want to broaden out what more investment, what more opportunities can there be between our businesses as well.

So we had our first what's called Singapore-New Zealand Leadership Forum, and we only do that with Australia.

So that went down really well, and there was really good interaction.