Christopher Payne

So I think that part they should be okay on.

But then there is that piece, there's probably people in

I've met her for 10, 15, 20 years, just like me and you are in our place.

And I often think about, God, if I had to go back out to the market and do my CV and do all that, but go back to what our business is looking for right now.

They're looking for adaptability.

They're looking for those soft skills.

So what can you bring to the table?

They want people who can problem solve, who can act in real time, who have emotional intelligence and are a team player.

So make sure that you're going out to the market with what they're asking for.

And those soft skills, it's creeping up every single time we do research.

It is higher and higher in terms of we're struggling to find people with the right soft skills.

It's also the reason why we're seeing a lot of businesses mandating back to the office, because just like you mentioned, your first three years in Newstalk, learning more than you did in your three years in UCD, that's where you learn your soft skills.

So they want people back in the office for that reason.

Thanks a million.