Chuck Bryan

That's not what these people are talking about.

They're just trying to figure out things that people can do to make themselves happier if they feel like they need to make themselves happier.

Yeah, for sure.

And as we'll see, you know, we'll get to like studies and stuff, but there's there's definitely plenty of benefits to trying to be positive and have an optimistic outlook as far as I mean, we'll get to all the different things, including like real health outcomes.

Right.

But there are also some positives to pessimism, as we'll learn, which was not surprising.

But once I read it, it kind of, you know, a lot of that makes a lot of sense to me.

Bravo, baby.

Uh, one big thing, if you look at the, like the, how psychology really views it today, um, and this is sort of true across a lot of psychology is sort of a nature nurture thing, or in this case, they, they refer to it as state versus trait, uh, state meaning like, are you feeling that way right now?

Uh, or is it generally your trait as a person of like, oh, nothing good ever happens to me.

And it's not just like I'm having a bad day or something.

Right.

You can kind of think of states as moods and traits as your personality.

Yeah, exactly.

One's way more stable than the other.

And psychology tends to focus more on the trait side because they want to figure out what it is that makes people actually adopt or grow up or be bestowed genetically, who knows, with an outlook on life that's way more positive than somebody else who may even have been

like in the womb with them, but raised in a different house.

You know, like twin studies have shown there's actually huge variations in pessimism and optimism among twins who were separated at birth.

Yeah, those studies are always really telling to me because that's probably not the hugest cohort, but I think it just speaks a lot to a lot of different things.

Yeah, and there's a lot of really unethical studies that were carried out with twins too.