Chuck Bryan

I don't think they were selling them.

But he had pretty firm quotas established for members to give these things out and had a pretty wide circulation.

Yeah, for sure.

You know, part of the complications of Malcolm X is that he had some anti-Semitic views at times.

He had some pretty dark views of Jews in America, and I guess all over the world, but specifically America.

And this was especially sort of a...

You know, a thumb in the eye of Jewish people because they were a lot of Jewish people were the white people that were kind of really heavily involved in the civil rights movement.

Obviously, there are all kinds of people, but Jewish people were leading the charge for white America and the civil rights movement for the most part.

Yeah, for sure.

But the media was loving this.

The media loves to pit people against one another.

So they had two really clear, like I think you described in the spoils, early on in Dr. Martin Luther King and Malcolm X, because it couldn't be any more different, not only in kind of the way they looked and how they talked and the things they were saying, but their ultimate goals.

So, you know, they painted Dr. King as a saint.

They painted Malcolm X as a pariah.

And the, I don't know if it's irony, but something you can't forget is that, you know, Malcolm X was making some waves, but his reach was nothing compared to what, uh, Dr. King was doing.

Um, he, Dr. King was much more of a threat if you, you know, is how they would have called it back then to white America and integration than Malcolm X was because he was, he was a fringe revolutionary, uh, at the time.

So he was, uh,

you know, he was kind of fortunate to be in the newspapers at all, even though, you know, the media was painting them as enemies and they kind of, you know, enemies is a weird word.

They didn't hang out.

Dr. King didn't return calls.