Chuck Bryan

He was offered like debates for Malcolm X and stuff like that.

And he kind of just didn't want anything to do with that brand because he had such a sort of a good thing going.

He had some momentum.

Yeah, you know, reading this stuff, I always...

was hoping that I would find out that they were secretly in cahoots with one another, doing sort of a good cop, bad cop thing, because they were both well aware of that.

And I think they, judging from some of the quotes I've seen, they were both aware that it was helping the cause, ultimately.

And even Malcolm X, even though that's not what he was after, he knew that there were gains coming on that side because he was so scary to white America.

Yeah, it's like food companies fixing grocery prices.

Yeah, he called the march on Washington, the farce on Washington, Malcolm X did.

And he said, the quote was, whoever heard of angry revolutionists all harmonizing, we shall overcome while tripping and swaying along arm in arm with the very people they're supposed to be angrily revolting against.

So, you know,

I'm not taking sides, but he's making a lot of good points at the time.

I think the idea that you can catch more flies with honey than vinegar is true, but I think there almost needed to be two sides of the same coin happening at the same time.

I don't know.

It's pretty interesting how it all worked out.

And if you're wondering if the federal government...

was concerned.

They absolutely were.

This started in 1950 when Malcolm X was still in prison.

He wrote a letter to Harry Truman, who was president, and said, I'm a communist.