Chuck Bryant

Sure.

Yeah.

And he wants forgiveness.

He needs forgiveness, even if, like, it's the end of the relationship.

Yeah, even if she doesn't love him anymore.

Sure.

So on the one hand, that is a certain kind of forgiveness that an individual or person can—that's a path someone can set down.

Right.

But there's been a lot of research starting in the very beginning stages at the middle of the 20th century, but really picking up in the 90s.

Research into forgiveness, like legitimate scientific research.

And it's a multidisciplinary thing because there's a lot of different fields.

Disciplines?

Sure.

That have said, hey, this actually – this is something we can study and measure and produce articles and work on.

And they have.

They've produced some really good legitimate work.

But what most of them have been focused on is not the Don Henley position of somebody who needs to be redeemed, who needs redemption to feel better, who needs forgiveness –

But rather the person doing the forgiving, the person who is originally transgressed against.

Not the offender, but the offendee.

That's where most of the research has been done on forgiveness.