Chuck Klosterman

It's like I do think that the dominance it has in the culture is limited.

And I think it's probably two generations.

So I'm thinking like 2070.

Okay, so right now it does seem impossible, right?

It seems more likely that football would take over every other sport more so than it would sort of recede or disappear.

But the one thing it's like kind of irrefutable is nothing else has ever been like that.

Nothing else has ever been the biggest thing in the world and stayed that way in perpetuity.

Like for football to continue to be the last vestige of the American monoculture.

I mean, I would love that.

I love football.

But that would be an incredible exception.

If that were to happen, if football plays the same role in culture as it does now in 2070, or if it's even bigger, that would actually be sort of a kind of an end of history argument.

Well, I not totally, but mostly do agree with you on this.

I mean, I now in the short term, it's interesting because like I have many conversations like with other fathers and situations where it's like they're talking about there was like some meaningless game that was on and they were like, I said, put some money down.

I want to feel something.

I wanted the juice or whatever.

So in some ways, maybe

gambling is inflating the idea that like a Mac game between two teams that are under 500 could still be watchable.

Right.

So in like many of these things, like the short term benefit is going to lead to a long term detriment.