Chuck Klosterman

You can be the person who doesn't really watch games and yet is able to have a conversation that seemingly could be on a podcast.

Yeah.

Yeah, we did.

We were going to go to the Brooklyn Aquarium.

Yeah.

And, you know, it probably was me.

It probably was me.

Because I think... I feel like that happened when my life had kind of shifted.

I think I had... What year was it?

I had kids, I think, already.

20 teens yes um you it's when you were you know you were on a you know around the horn and like you you dress like a manatee or whatever you know yeah yeah yes and it was like that or something along those lines and we were like let's get high and go to the go to the the brooklyn aquarium and it seemed like a good idea but then i just you know i never got around it there's this kind of this there's a lot of people like that who i've made plans with who i never ended up seeing

I lived in New York from 2002 to 2017.

And that's really bifurcated, that there was that first eight-year period, and that was a really incredible, crazy period.

And then there was the second period where I was a married person who was raising kids and trying to sort of become maybe a little more serious about what I was doing as a writer.

If nostalgia is injecting your own feelings into the past and misremembering the past, I hope that's not what's happening.

I hope that what I remember is real.

But it was just the way my life worked out is so unlike.

It's not like...

my dreams were fulfilled or it surpassed my dreams.

I never had dreams like this, right?