Chuck Klosterman

But the thing is, personalities disappear and people's feelings toward them change.

What matters is the thing itself.

The reason football is so dominant is not because of the individuals.

It's because of the collective.

It's because the sport is what people like.

You know, you had mentioned like this thing with baseball.

It is interesting.

So, you know, football starts, you know, late 19th century or whatever.

And then it intersects with the rise of television in the 1950s.

And that is what makes it happen.

I mean, that's sort of the marker we use, but it really, it goes beyond that.

Because certainly when you're inventing a sport in the 19th century, when you're there inventing college football,

Television doesn't exist.

When television as a medium was being created, there was an idea that, oh, we can show sports on this.

But it was like, we can show the Kentucky Derby on this.

You know, we can show baseball games on this.

Football was not the, no one looked at television and thought like, this will be the perfect machine to broadcast football.

And as it turns out- Well, wasn't that boxing though?

Boxing too.

I feel like boxing was the most important TV sport.