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Chuck Klosterman

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2297 total appearances

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The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

Yes, absolutely.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I mean, all three of those sports,

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

when football or when television was created, I think would have been like, this is what this box will let us do.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

But one of the big arguments I make early in the book, and the reason it's the first essay is because in many ways, it's the most important, is

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

an incredible coincidence happened, is that football is better experienced through television.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And television, for a whole variety of semiotic reasons, the best thing it can do is show you a football game.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

The way it's designed, the way the passive experience of watching television works, it's just ideal for football.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And this is why football became the thing that it did.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

It's this

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

kind of enforced marriage to television that ended up being the best possible thing for both sides of the equation.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

That's why when I say football was more popular than baseball in the 70s, we were still kind of operating from this idea that what mattered is what we said mattered.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

So if we say baseball is the national pastime, it was.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

But at some point that changed, where the consumer had more control than the person dictating what the meaning is.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And football now is so pervasive that

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

It kind of informs the lives of people who don't care at all.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

It's a cliche thing to say, but really, as somebody who's into the monoculture, it's just football and Taylor Swift.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

That's it.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

All that rest of it is gone.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

And that's why I would say football is really a way to understand the last half of the 20th century.

The Bill Simmons Podcast
So Long, Rodgers, Plus a Football History Deep Dive With Cousin Sal and Chuck Klosterman

I'm not sure it'll be the best way to understand the 21st century.