Chuck Klosterman

Well, you know, yeah.

In the year 1900, even an urban area like Chicago

was called the city of horses.

There were horses everywhere.

If you had a blue collar job, horses did the work.

Maybe you didn't have a horse, but your dad probably did.

Your grandfather almost certainly did.

Like you would have been, you know, the country was more rural.

So the idea of just running into a horse was common.

The idea of encountering horses

was not some kind of surprising thing.

It would probably be surprising if you leave this podcast and saw a horse.

That might be enough for you to tell everyone you know you will not believe they saw was a horse on the street or whatever.

So I think that is a huge part of it.

And that's why I kind of made this comparison

to what I think is going to happen with football, in that it is increasingly becoming something that people only watch, that they would never let their kid play.

They didn't play themselves.

Their father didn't play.

It's this thing that is a mediated experience only.

And when a mediated experience only disappears, it can be replaced with other media.