Chuck Todd

Look, I've I have been happy to see this become more nuanced in general when it comes to sort of dramas like The Sympathizer, which was about me. Right. And it was like, you know, the perspective of the North Vietnamese. Right. Which we didn't fully you don't get. And yes, they use some satire to do it. But it was like.

Look, I've I have been happy to see this become more nuanced in general when it comes to sort of dramas like The Sympathizer, which was about me. Right. And it was like, you know, the perspective of the North Vietnamese. Right. Which we didn't fully you don't get. And yes, they use some satire to do it. But it was like.

Look, I've I have been happy to see this become more nuanced in general when it comes to sort of dramas like The Sympathizer, which was about me. Right. And it was like, you know, the perspective of the North Vietnamese. Right. Which we didn't fully you don't get. And yes, they use some satire to do it. But it was like.

just remembering that, hey, we're all human beings and we all react to things sometimes the same way, even if our brains are reoriented in the opposite, right? Like it's just, and introducing that nuance where sometimes you don't know who the heroes are, right? We're not always the hero, you know?

just remembering that, hey, we're all human beings and we all react to things sometimes the same way, even if our brains are reoriented in the opposite, right? Like it's just, and introducing that nuance where sometimes you don't know who the heroes are, right? We're not always the hero, you know?

just remembering that, hey, we're all human beings and we all react to things sometimes the same way, even if our brains are reoriented in the opposite, right? Like it's just, and introducing that nuance where sometimes you don't know who the heroes are, right? We're not always the hero, you know?

And before we get to diplomat, how important was your time on Homeland in order to sort of prepare to succeed with the diplomat?

And before we get to diplomat, how important was your time on Homeland in order to sort of prepare to succeed with the diplomat?

And before we get to diplomat, how important was your time on Homeland in order to sort of prepare to succeed with the diplomat?

It's funny you put it that way in Homeland, because as much as I miss it, it was done. It had run its course because you're right. I don't know if I wanted to see Claire Danes suffer more.

It's funny you put it that way in Homeland, because as much as I miss it, it was done. It had run its course because you're right. I don't know if I wanted to see Claire Danes suffer more.

It's funny you put it that way in Homeland, because as much as I miss it, it was done. It had run its course because you're right. I don't know if I wanted to see Claire Danes suffer more.

Right. I don't know if I wanted to see the mental health torture that was happening to everybody in that show. You're like, no more. You know, and in the real world, these folks do leave after a term or a term and a half. Right. And it's like, you know, they just can't they just can't take it in that sense.

Right. I don't know if I wanted to see the mental health torture that was happening to everybody in that show. You're like, no more. You know, and in the real world, these folks do leave after a term or a term and a half. Right. And it's like, you know, they just can't they just can't take it in that sense.

Right. I don't know if I wanted to see the mental health torture that was happening to everybody in that show. You're like, no more. You know, and in the real world, these folks do leave after a term or a term and a half. Right. And it's like, you know, they just can't they just can't take it in that sense.

So you've been so the diplomat in some ways, it's shaped a lot of your experiences are shaped here. And clearly you've had this idea of of trying to pull back the curtain a little bit on on international what it is. diplomacy is just a fancy name for international politics, right?

So you've been so the diplomat in some ways, it's shaped a lot of your experiences are shaped here. And clearly you've had this idea of of trying to pull back the curtain a little bit on on international what it is. diplomacy is just a fancy name for international politics, right?

So you've been so the diplomat in some ways, it's shaped a lot of your experiences are shaped here. And clearly you've had this idea of of trying to pull back the curtain a little bit on on international what it is. diplomacy is just a fancy name for international politics, right?

Like, you know, that's one of the things I learned being traveling with Obama for six years as a as a White House correspondent that I didn't fully appreciate. You sort of know intellectually, but you don't know until you're there is

Like, you know, that's one of the things I learned being traveling with Obama for six years as a as a White House correspondent that I didn't fully appreciate. You sort of know intellectually, but you don't know until you're there is