Chuck Todd

He loves to be around people publicly.

I've got my own theories.

He doesn't have a lot of personal friends, so there's not really a group of people he wants to hang out with.

He doesn't have, and if you don't have close friendships, a retreat like Camp David doesn't work for you, right?

I think, you know, it's so funny about it.

Presidents, it's probably a good thing for a president to have, but

It is I think what's made it less popular with some presidents is the lack of the golf course to be fully transparent.

Like Obama just would go to golf every weekend at Andrews and then go back to the White House.

He's used Camp David a little, but he didn't love it per se either.

Look, it's on my bucket list of things that I've never gotten to see that I'd still like to see.

So if there's any president that would like to invite me to use Camp David.

Here's my pledge to you.

If I ever get access to Camp David, John, I will try to get you there and invite you as well as my plus one, if that's possible.

Don't tell Mrs. Todd that.

But we got to get some other people in here.

It is one of these, like, I've heard stories.

I've had people tell me what it's like, right?

But it is one of the few things we've seen no pictures of.

And perhaps those that run Camp David that don't want people to know what it looks like are glad Trump hasn't come because the more Trump goes, the more likely it will come out.

So you're right.