Chuck Todd

You could have some of it in the other way where the news of Swalwell and Gonzalez and Mills triggers even more accusations and more staffers decide if we're gonna hold these four accountable, then we need to hold these other folks accountable.

So, by the way, you know who was the godfather of that strategy?

So it's possible it's an important moment for Congress to sort of draw a line and to try to raise the bar because let's be honest,

No, no, no, no.

Goes back further.

It was this young conservative.

activist from Georgia named Newt Gingrich.

The quality of member of Congress has been going downhill for some time.

And, you know, I can't tell you how many members of Congress I know over the years who told me that they first learned how to run from office by listening to Newt Gingrich cassette tapes.

More and more of them are not role models.

Now, you could say, hey, they just are a reflection of us.

They're a perverted reflection of us because these congressional districts aren't fairly reflective of the country.

Yeah.

From the old GOPAC era.

But the point was, I remember he was a big advocate of this, basically fill the tree and

So it's a perverted version.

It's a funhouse mirror version of us.

And there's always been a small part of me that we as American citizens, you know, we've always punched we've always punched down in Congress.

If you have a candidate in every race locally up and down the ballot, well, all of a sudden you have that many more people going out to ask for Republicans, having somebody to go vote for a Republican or in this case.

We want to believe that they're that we're all better than them.