Chuck Todd

And some conversations were never allowed to happen.

John Conyers III doesn't write as an apologist and he doesn't write as a provocateur either.

He writes as a son trying to understand how a public giant could be both indispensable to a movement and deeply complicated in private.

This is a fascinating book and it's interesting.

And John Conyers III, the son of the late John Conyers Jr., really opened himself up in here.

And John Conyers III, author of My Father's House, joins me now.

John, good to see you.

Good to see you as well.

Thank you for having me.

It's an honor to be here.

Well, let me start with that introduction I gave to your book, because look, I opened it assuming one thing.

And after going through it, you're like, OK, I'm you wrote a book that I wish Al Gore had written.

You wrote a book that I've always wanted to know if Harold Ford Jr.

wanted to write this.

I really am fascinated by those who basically were raised.

in power, right?

No.

It wasn't a choice, right?

Your career path was destined for you, perhaps, or at least the path was cleared if you chose to take it.

Yeah, I think it's... You offered an insider account in a way that I'd never seen before.