Chuck Todd

And morally, I like him.

I think he was extremely effective for what he did.

But I think we need to, as we get to our nomination process, we need to get people who make it very clear that this is where the buck stops.

Yeah.

Look, we're at a moment...

that demands, you know, I want a Churchill.

I want somebody who says, I have nothing to promise you, but blood, sweat, and tears.

I can't guarantee we'll win, but I can guarantee we'll lose if we don't fight.

So once more to the battlements, my dear friend, like that's what we need in this moment, right?

I don't particularly want someone who's going to talk about the reconciliation process.

I mean, for the people who are running or...

Look, I'm going to...

My prediction is that whoever we nominate is not going to be someone who has no executive experience.

Does that mean a governor?

Does that mean someone we haven't named yet?

I don't think the leading candidate at this point in the cycle has ever emerged.

I mean, Scott Walker.

Scott Walker did not become president, right?

you know, or a governor.

I mean, I think we, we lionize the business sector a little bit too much.