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Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

And let's take a break and we'll come back and talk about where Home Ec went after, well, the break.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Yeah, and there was an article on Fatherly written by a guy named Cameron LeBlanc, and he traced it back even further.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

He traced the origin of where the emphasis on STEM came from to the 80s in the Vocational and Technical Education Act that Ronald Reagan signed, where it said, educators, colleges, you're no longer responsible for figuring out what we want to teach our kids.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

We're going to hand this over to business and industry so they can tell us what they want us to teach so that we can basically train workers.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

That was the point from that point on for school.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Train workers as much as you can.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

And then eventually universities got in on the act and they're like, let's also make these like pipelines to colleges.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

So like that's the point of high school is to get into college and we're going to charge them out the yin yang.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

So standardization of testing.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

was a huge part of it, but that was not the only part.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Like you kind of touched on earlier, Betty Friedan's feminist mystique, which kicked off the second wave of feminism, is very often cited as a huge chilling effect or having a huge chilling effect on home ec classes being taught in high school.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Isn't industrial arts the same as shop?

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Is it different?

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

Oh, no, I think that's different.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

I think shop is like drill presses and lathes and stuff like that.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

For sure.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

My high school had that.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

My middle school had shop class in Home Ec.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

I don't remember.

Stuff You Should Know
What We Lost When We Lost Home Ec

I don't remember, but I saw it written somewhere as like automotive arts or something like that.