Chuck

And he and his wife, Catherine, and their three young kids, like, packed and shipped these things in their house out of their home for a little while and were selling pretty good. And then what happened, Josh?

And he and his wife, Catherine, and their three young kids, like, packed and shipped these things in their house out of their home for a little while and were selling pretty good. And then what happened, Josh?

And he and his wife, Catherine, and their three young kids, like, packed and shipped these things in their house out of their home for a little while and were selling pretty good. And then what happened, Josh?

Yeah, I would argue that maybe the name is intellectual property. But I think in a court of law, a judge would say, like, you can't claim like doing a condensed version of a book as like an original idea that no one else can do. Because there were summaries before this. They didn't invent the idea of a literary summary. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I would argue that maybe the name is intellectual property. But I think in a court of law, a judge would say, like, you can't claim like doing a condensed version of a book as like an original idea that no one else can do. Because there were summaries before this. They didn't invent the idea of a literary summary. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, I would argue that maybe the name is intellectual property. But I think in a court of law, a judge would say, like, you can't claim like doing a condensed version of a book as like an original idea that no one else can do. Because there were summaries before this. They didn't invent the idea of a literary summary. You know what I'm saying?

No, that's true. And I do. I'm not, like, going to bat for Cliff. I'm just saying that I don't think that's one of those ideas you can say, like, I hold the idea for condensing a long novel into a shorter version.

No, that's true. And I do. I'm not, like, going to bat for Cliff. I'm just saying that I don't think that's one of those ideas you can say, like, I hold the idea for condensing a long novel into a shorter version.

No, that's true. And I do. I'm not, like, going to bat for Cliff. I'm just saying that I don't think that's one of those ideas you can say, like, I hold the idea for condensing a long novel into a shorter version.

I do feel bad for Cole, though, if it helps.

I do feel bad for Cole, though, if it helps.

I do feel bad for Cole, though, if it helps.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

Yeah, for sure.

Well, people, I feel like everyone is called out online for doing something like this. But old Cliff gets a pass, I guess, because everyone got through school because of him.

Well, people, I feel like everyone is called out online for doing something like this. But old Cliff gets a pass, I guess, because everyone got through school because of him.

Well, people, I feel like everyone is called out online for doing something like this. But old Cliff gets a pass, I guess, because everyone got through school because of him.

Yeah. He sold a lot of these pretty quickly, though. I do like how Livia put he gradually phased out the original material. It seemed like that happened within that first year. But he was it also I also can find when he stopped paying the royalties. Was that during the first year or two? I'm guessing when it became Cliff's notes, he stopped paying royalties. Probably right.

Yeah. He sold a lot of these pretty quickly, though. I do like how Livia put he gradually phased out the original material. It seemed like that happened within that first year. But he was it also I also can find when he stopped paying the royalties. Was that during the first year or two? I'm guessing when it became Cliff's notes, he stopped paying royalties. Probably right.