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The Cliffs Notes on Cliffs Notes

Thu, 15 May 2025

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When a man named Cliff packaged book summaries in yellow and black booklets he changed the way kids learned. But was he just creating a cheat code?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Chapter 1: How did Cliff's Notes come to be?

879.851 - 884.852 Unknown Speaker

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885.713 - 891.554 Stacey Vanek-Smith (Everybody's Business Host)

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892.973 - 907.764 Kristen Davis

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908.044 - 913.549 Sarah Jessica Parker

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913.949 - 916.571 Kristen Davis

But then you forgot about it in the very long time they took to pick us up.

916.631 - 917.892 Sarah Jessica Parker

I completely forgot about it.

918.392 - 923.494 Kristen Davis

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923.574 - 928.736 Sarah Jessica Parker

He said he wrote this like I was in his head in some way, which I found really interesting.

928.796 - 931.617 Kristen Davis

And does she think Carrie is too good for Mr. Big?

Chapter 2: What was the original intent of Cliff's Notes?

2713.55 - 2730.723 Josh

You mean the Scarlet Letter, the one with the great white whale? Oh, that's right. I got the name wrong. So sorry. Yeah. All right. Yeah, I saw that one. I was like, I don't know. It might be fun if we both read that. Okay. I have a feeling you're going to be like, you're still reading that two years from now.

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2731.824 - 2737.608 Chuck

Well, let's put it this way. Joey gave me a copy probably two years ago, and it sits untouched on my shelf.

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2737.708 - 2742.812 Josh

All right. You give me a two-year head start, and then you start, and we'll finish at the same time and talk about it.

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2743.772 - 2758.643 Chuck

I got to put down this Mike Campbell book of Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers and the R.E.M. one before that and the Mudhoney one before that. All I read is these rock books. I need to put them all away. And by the way, those are all called The Scarlet Letter. Right. My story in Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers.

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2759.283 - 2765.728 Josh

Right. And also, Chuck, I mean, if rock and roll rots your brain, reading about rock and roll really does. Yeah.

2767.116 - 2790.038 Chuck

Should we mention one more point that teachers make? Or I'm sorry, that problem with study guides. Some people are like, hey, these study guides just give you one lens to look through to view this thing. And what you need to do is read the book and go to a class and hear it from a teacher. But some people say, yeah, but that teacher is just looking at it through their lens. Right. I disagree.

2790.098 - 2797.881 Chuck

As an English major in my classes, the teacher would present perhaps their analysis and then say, this is what other people think. And what do you think?

2798.441 - 2808.714 Josh

Right. And you have to have read the CliffsNotes to say what you think. What else? You want to talk about any of these parodies or spinoffs or competitors?

2809.194 - 2821.397 Chuck

Yeah, I mean, we can just mention kind of quickly, Spark Notes became the biggest competitor in like 1999. There's one called Shmoop founded in 2008 that became a pretty good competitor.

Chapter 3: Who was Cliff Hillegas?

2829.52 - 2830.76 Josh

What's up with that letter A?

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2831.681 - 2835.828 Chuck

Interesting. I do want to mention this one spoof at least, Thug Notes.

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2836.268 - 2836.909 Josh

Yeah, it's great.

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2837.39 - 2838.412 Chuck

Did you watch any of these?

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2838.813 - 2840.856 Josh

I watched the one on Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

2842.258 - 2843.08 Chuck

I think you mean The Scarlet Letter.

2844.184 - 2846.405 Josh

Man, I got it too. We both went down.

2848.045 - 2848.765 Chuck

Thug Notes is on YouTube.

2848.805 - 2849.565 Josh

I was talking about the movie.

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