Chuck

Which I remember that from the Muppets episode. Rolf was the first big Muppet. He's such a bit character now that it's just mind-boggling to think he was the one that started it all. Even before Kermit, before Big Bird, it was Rolf. Kermit kind of stole the show, I think. Yeah. We'll talk a little more about Kermit and where he came from right after this.

Which I remember that from the Muppets episode. Rolf was the first big Muppet. He's such a bit character now that it's just mind-boggling to think he was the one that started it all. Even before Kermit, before Big Bird, it was Rolf. Kermit kind of stole the show, I think. Yeah. We'll talk a little more about Kermit and where he came from right after this.

I think I knew that. Did you? Yeah, he was our Russ Vic. No, he was their Russ Vic. That's right. Russ Vic is ours. That's right. So, Chuck, the whole thing that changed everything for him was Sesame Street. Yeah. He wasn't a creator of Sesame Street. They just hired him on.

I think I knew that. Did you? Yeah, he was our Russ Vic. No, he was their Russ Vic. That's right. Russ Vic is ours. That's right. So, Chuck, the whole thing that changed everything for him was Sesame Street. Yeah. He wasn't a creator of Sesame Street. They just hired him on.

I think I knew that. Did you? Yeah, he was our Russ Vic. No, he was their Russ Vic. That's right. Russ Vic is ours. That's right. So, Chuck, the whole thing that changed everything for him was Sesame Street. Yeah. He wasn't a creator of Sesame Street. They just hired him on.

And they actually kind of won him over because remember one of the things that Jim Henson always struggled with his whole career was he wanted to – explore places that puppets had never really gone to.

And they actually kind of won him over because remember one of the things that Jim Henson always struggled with his whole career was he wanted to – explore places that puppets had never really gone to.

And they actually kind of won him over because remember one of the things that Jim Henson always struggled with his whole career was he wanted to – explore places that puppets had never really gone to.

In themes that they hadn't gone to, at least not in the modern age. Sure. But he was fighting against them not being taken seriously.

In themes that they hadn't gone to, at least not in the modern age. Sure. But he was fighting against them not being taken seriously.

In themes that they hadn't gone to, at least not in the modern age. Sure. But he was fighting against them not being taken seriously.

Russ Vick, by the way, made the little interstitial things for the Stuff You Should Know television show. Yeah, the animations. Which is why I reference him. Yeah. So the Children's Television Workshop, which is now called the Sesame Workshop, from what I understand, they won him over big time.

Russ Vick, by the way, made the little interstitial things for the Stuff You Should Know television show. Yeah, the animations. Which is why I reference him. Yeah. So the Children's Television Workshop, which is now called the Sesame Workshop, from what I understand, they won him over big time.

Russ Vick, by the way, made the little interstitial things for the Stuff You Should Know television show. Yeah, the animations. Which is why I reference him. Yeah. So the Children's Television Workshop, which is now called the Sesame Workshop, from what I understand, they won him over big time.

He makes all of these characters from, like, Big Bird, and I think Kermit came before Sesame Street, and he started out, and I think we talked about this in the Muppet episode, too, he started out looking really weird. Yeah.

He makes all of these characters from, like, Big Bird, and I think Kermit came before Sesame Street, and he started out, and I think we talked about this in the Muppet episode, too, he started out looking really weird. Yeah.

He makes all of these characters from, like, Big Bird, and I think Kermit came before Sesame Street, and he started out, and I think we talked about this in the Muppet episode, too, he started out looking really weird. Yeah.

Yeah, not cool at all, like really kind of freaky.

Yeah, not cool at all, like really kind of freaky.

Yeah, not cool at all, like really kind of freaky.