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Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

They don't think about, I'm sure they didn't think like, oh, this railroad is really nice.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

The prisoners who built it really did a good job.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

That actually still carries on today.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

Like a lot of people don't realize that the stuff they're buying from a big box retailer was made somewhere down the line by a convict who was essentially leased out to that company to make those products.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

It still goes on today.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

Which is quite surprising.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

But, Chuck, don't call it convict leasing, even though essentially it's so much the same thing that basically just the people's clothes changed.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

That's what's going on today still.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

Supposedly, in the 1930s, thanks to the New Deal, America became enlightened enough that we moved on past convict leasing.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

We didn't do that kind of stuff anymore.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

Not at least to private industry.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

Prison labor, working for the prison or working for the state, that was still A-okay.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

I don't know.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

I don't know the answer to that question.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

And we really should.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

It's on the list.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

They do this, too.

Stuff You Should Know
The Brutal History of Prison Labor

And they they like the idea of them leasing out convicts for a for profit prison is just mind boggling.