Chuck
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They don't think about, I'm sure they didn't think like, oh, this railroad is really nice.
The prisoners who built it really did a good job.
That actually still carries on today.
Like a lot of people don't realize that the stuff they're buying from a big box retailer was made somewhere down the line by a convict who was essentially leased out to that company to make those products.
It still goes on today.
Which is quite surprising.
But, Chuck, don't call it convict leasing, even though essentially it's so much the same thing that basically just the people's clothes changed.
That's what's going on today still.
Supposedly, in the 1930s, thanks to the New Deal, America became enlightened enough that we moved on past convict leasing.
We didn't do that kind of stuff anymore.
Not at least to private industry.
Prison labor, working for the prison or working for the state, that was still A-okay.
I don't know.
I don't know the answer to that question.
And we really should.
It's on the list.
They do this, too.
And they they like the idea of them leasing out convicts for a for profit prison is just mind boggling.