Chuck

Right.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And if you are a government agency, you have to go to Unicor first to see if they have what you want.

Then you order for them then.

And so even still today, like companies complain like these guys, it's unfair competition.

You know, they have like unpaid labor making these products so they can sell it for whatever.

And the feds are basically like, we can't hear you.

Yeah, right.

We might as well.

Dad had the strong belief that the devil was attacking us.

Okay, so when we left off, like convict leasing was dead in the north, thanks to labor unions.

The south has long been considered kind of anti-worker.

So labor unions never really got a foothold here.

So it took a little longer for convict leasing to go away.

But again, that doesn't mean that there was no such thing as prison labor.

They just kind of directed them to state-owned stuff.

A really good example of this is a Parchman Farm in Mississippi, part of Parchman State Penitentiary.

It's a 20,000-acre farm where in the early 19-teens, with a 90% Black prison population,

prisoners were put to work on this farm.