Cian Murphy

But the question that you asked is, why don't you offer the same odds as bookies?

And it's not possible both to make the contribution to good causes, which is important to our players and fundamental to the national lottery, and to offer those same prices.

And that's the reason why we're saying if bookmakers want to offer this product and they want to

to run their own draw, which does this, that would be absolutely fine.

But the only reason to do it on the National Lottery product is to create confusion.

And that happens, the research is very clear that players are very confused.

They believe that they are participating in the National Lottery.

Actually, on the way over on my phone, I was looking at some of the advertising that I've received from one operator in particular on this.

And the advertising goes something like, Irish National Lottery jackpot, 7.2 million tonight.

And then it offers four tickets for the price of three.

And it's absolutely indistinguishable from the national offering.

From a customer's perspective, it's the same game.

In that case, it's offering exactly the same odds and exactly the same payout.

But of course, they are offering four tickets for the price of three.

So from a customer's perspective, absolutely.

In some of the operators, you absolutely are.

So in some of the operators, it is an exact replica of the product.

Sorry, of the National Lottery game.

So what we're calling for is for the government to follow what almost all EU countries have done at this stage.

So 25 from 27 have outlawed this practice through a number of different mechanisms.