Cian Murphy

So about 10 cents comes back to the operators after the retailer, after good causes and after prizes have been paid about 10 cents.

Yeah, so I think I'd repeat my point.

We are not suggesting that bookmakers can't go and offer their own products or can't go and offer even a product which is similar.

But just not your product?

Just specifically our product, the balls coming out of our drum.

The only reason why they want to do that is...

is so that they can market it and advertise it as if it is the lottery.

It preys on our reputation, our brand, the operations, all the investment that we put into it.

This is banned almost everywhere else.

OK.