Ciaran Dunbar

I suppose, unfortunately, that can happen.

But it is one of the situations you get the impression that the bigger the lie, the easier somehow it is to get away with it.

And that's what she was at.

Her scams did eventually catch up with her in terms of the FBI.

Can you tell us more about what she was caught for and how she was caught?

She takes a plea bargain in the end for a 26-month jail sentence.

Clyde, the husband, Clyde Parrish, was prosecuted for concealing information from investigators.

He got six months in prison.

His loved ones have always maintained that he was simply manipulated by Holmes.

In fairness, Julia's victims insist that he was somehow complicit in this.

Those are, I suppose, those are quite...

lenient sentences but there's no violence involved here in the sense when people are tricked into doing something yes it's wrong but I suppose there's often a lot of leniency in cases like this.

Now, in many scamming situations, many con artists and many of the stories that I've read, there is no cure for this.

As one person said, they scam and they scam and they're not going to change.

You're dealing with a whole different psychology.

She does her time.

She comes back to Northern Ireland.

Does she reform herself?

She was involved in swindling and cons valued at over £1 million over a three-year period.

She got 21 months in prison and then she's back in court again.