Ciaran Dunbar

So how was she a con artist?

How was she getting money out of people?

And some of this property was supposedly in Ireland, Northern Ireland, and that she would say that for some reason she had this land or whatever and she needs money to invest and it's a sure thing.

And people believe her for some reason.

It's interesting.

She was using some of the money that she got for raising funds for charity to fund a lavish lifestyle, purchasing Rolex watches, expensive vehicles and jewellery.

Now...

I suppose that would be very much noticed here.

But there is an aspect to religion in the United States of America.

I believe they call it, what is it?

Prosperous theology, something.

And where it is more acceptable, it is acceptable for a church person, a reverend, a preacher to acquire material wealth from their flock.

And it is not seen as unacceptable as it would be here.

So she's scamming.

She's extorting money.

She's pretending.

She's defrauding businessmen.

She's scamming using supposed land deals and et cetera, et cetera.

But we do understand that her marriage to Clyde, that she was scamming Clyde.

There is some debate over that in terms of there's an accusation that she was having fake phone calls.