Ciaran Dunbar

Clearly there will be many circumstances, but no one's in any real doubt, however, that in this instance, that she would have been the driving force behind this.

And that is how her life ended.

She was cremated in Cork later that year in 2015.

I understand no family member attended that.

No real heritage in terms of, no real positive heritage to pass on.

But she did have a child.

And that was the original child that we spoke about at the start of this podcast in terms of who had been abandoned.

And I suppose it's very hard for a lot of people who had any contact with her to ever come to terms of what was real, what wasn't real.

And that is even aside from the fact that if they had given her money, because many people...

through no fault of their own, often feel foolish and fooled.

And they wouldn't be the person fooled by that.

But most people are just trying to get on with their own lives.

And they're not really thinking that this person is not like you or I or them.

This person's a con artist and they're here to scam.

And hopefully they'll want to come on this podcast.

Gillian Halliday, thank you very much.

This podcast was produced by Olivia Peden.

The sound design was by Niall Dorn.

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